Another change in the title again, after much discussion, now into HMS Vigilant.
Previously: Martin asked me to change the heading, originally 'HMS Teazer at Portland', but now indentified as the HMS Ulster. See original description and comments below:
F23, which I assume to be HMS Teazer, a Type 16 anti-submarine frigate, was converted from the hull of a J-class World War II destroyer in 1953-4. She was equipped with a 4" gun, squid anti-submarine mortars and bofors secondary armament. She was probably operating as an escort to HMS Tiger, also moored in Portland harbour at the time, and one of the Royal Navy's last cruisers. The frigate was broken up in 1965.
I Served on the Teazer 1957-58, The degree of upper deck conversion seems strange.Perhaps she was "done over" post 1959.Her pen No F23....
This is not HMS Teazer. She was a limited frigate conversion (type 16). The ship shown here is HMS Ulster F83, built in June 1943 by Swan Hunter. She was given a full frigate conversion (type 15)in 1953/4, at Chatham Dockard. Only one "T" was given a full conversion, that was HMS Troubridge.
Hms ulster. I bow to superior knowledge marcel and would be grateful if you'd change the heading accordingly. I didn't keep a record and assumed the pennant to be f23 but now see it could be f83. I'm also most grateful to Mr perkin for enlightenment
Hms ulster. I now find there is a whole website devoted to the vessel: www.candoo.com/ulsternorrie/ulster/ulsterhome.html although the forward superstructure doesn't appear to match in other views assembled there
Whichever ship it is, from the background it is definately not at Portland, at least not Portland UK.
I served as a JMEM on the Ulster,was youngest lad onboard on New Years night so was Captain for a day,and was there on when she finally paid of in Pompy,,
My apologies. This is not HMS Ulster as previously stated. I was going by the Pennant number F83 as being the only one to appear to fit. Having seen the comments by Martin Bodman about the bridge, posted on 30th April 2010. I have had a close look at all the Type 15 conversions and only HMS Vigilant fits the Pennant number, F93 and has the large rounded open bridge. HMS Ulster had the modern frigate style enclosed bridge. See website
Near the bottom. Photo of HMS Vigilant , which matches that above in profile and detail.
Marcel, sorry about this. I seem to have led you and others on a wild goose chase on this shot. Still, we've found a serving member of HMS Teazer and another - Keith Hutt - from HMS Ulster. I'll check Mr Perkin's reference later and get back to you, before I ask for a further title change!
HMS Ulster was one of three Type 15 conversions to be fitted with a new frigate style enclosed bridge. The others were HMS Zest and HMS Troubridge, which I believe were the last three ships converted. Several Type 15 conversion were subsequently fitted with a raised bridge above the window line, (as HMS Vigilant above,) which enabled them to be attached to the Dartmouth training squadron. I believe that the photo above is taken at HMS Britannia at Dartmouth
After much research into the ships and location (Portland ? ), along with a site visit today. I live nearby. This is HMS Roebuck on the river Dart in Devon. She was attached to the Dartmouth training squadron. Type 15 conversion frigates with the rounded bridge had an extension upwards to help with navigational training, for their deployment at RNCD Britannia. Actual location is just down river from Dartmouth upper ferry crossing /Britannia halt on the railway line from Paignton to Kingswear.
My apologies, It is HMS Vigilant not Roebuck as stated immediately above. She is berthed at Sandquay jetty, which is the alongside berth for RNCD Britannia. Actual location is up river from Britannia halt and the Dartmouth higher ferry. The road running down from left to right, from in front of the bridge is the access road to the higher ferry.
I'll take this full circle - I think she is HMS Teazer, F23. Compare this with Bob Ford's fathers picture
(I think it's public access)
The structure on the foremast is the same, and the number is clear.
Try Wikipedia as well - though I know it is not completely omniscient.
This is HMS Vigilant a type 15 conversion. HMS Teazer was a type 16 conversion. Which means NO hull upwards extensions of her Destroyer hull, which the type 15 has as shown in the above photo. Where the original hull lines are clearly seen. Together with a small quarter deck. See wikipedia website for detail and photo. :-en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_15_frigate .
See website :- for photos of HMS Teazer in Destroyer form R23 and Frigate conversion F23 Frigate form. :-www.maritimequest.com/warship_directory/great_britain/pages/destroyers/hms_teazer_f23_page_1.htm.
The Type 15 conversion was much more than the weapons make over of the Type 16. The hulls of U, R, W, V and one T & Z Class were used. The ships were stripped down to deck level and beyond, all machinary was overhauled and then the ship built back up, fuel bunkerage was increased to improve range.
The hull was increased in height and integrated into the superstructure, forming the "cheekbone" effect that would become a feature of the next generation of Frigates. Interior space was greatly increased, allowing for not only additional equipment, but an Operations Room in which to co-ordinate attacks with other units. Accomodation was also greatly improved, an important factor, post war sailors were no longer prepared to put up with being left to find some damp noisy corner of the ship in which to sling a hammock while the officers slept in the comfort of their cabins. Despite huge cuts the Navy was haemorraging men at an unsustainable rate and the new equipment needed trained and skilled men to operate it, conditions had to improve and now, "Jam tomorrow" the old hands sneered at promises of better conditions to come.
The new ships were being built around the Limbo Mortar, a development on the Squid. But where the Squid was fixed and needed the ship to manouvre to aim it the Limbo could fire over 360 degrees out to a mile, it meant for the first time a ship was free to manouvre while still engaging a submarine, a huge advantage, a submarine captain could no longer predict when and where the depth charges would fall by the position of the attacking ship.
Like the Squid the Limbo had it's own dedicated sonar, the 170 attack that combined the depth and bearing sonars used in the Squid. Depth setting and even firing was automatic, two Limbos would fire a pattern of six charges above and below a submarine and crush it between the converging shock waves.
The Limbo was mounted astern and muzzle loaded with hydraulic bomb handling gear, it could be loaded and ready in seconds.
The ship's also mounted a twin 4" gun midships and a twin 40mm Bofors Mk V and a varying number of 20mm Oerlikons.
The classes used as "donors" were all very similar to those for the Type 16, being based on the J Class hull and machinary with four single mount 4" or 4.7" guns and 1 or 2 quad torpedo launchers.
Conversion included the novelty of an enclosed Bridge, unheard of in smaller vessels, most were equipped with a half round Bridge but three: Troubridge, Ursa and Ulster, were fitted with an experimental shape that would be later used on the early Type 12 Frigates.
Displacement: 2,300 tons standar, 2,700 tons full load
Length: 358 ft overall, Beam: 37.75 ft, Draught: 14.5 ft
Propulsion: 2 x Admiralty three drum boilers, steam turbines, 2 shafts 40,000shp giving 31 knots fully loaded.
Range: Optimum speed 20 Knots, range at that is:
Z class and Troubridge: 3,000 NM with 600 tons oil
W, V & P class: 2,800 NM with 580 tons oil
Armament: 2 x Limbo Mortar, 1 x twin 40mm Bofors Mk V, 1 x twin 4" Mk XIX, all ships fitted for 8 anti submarine torpedo tubes but only Ulster carried them, 4 tubes each side, Undaunted was fitted with three on the starboard side only.
Radar: Type 293Q target Indication, later 993, Type 277Q surface search, Type 974 Navigation, Type 262 fire control on CRBDF, Type 1010 Cossor IFF
Sonar: Type 174 search, Type 162 bottom search, Type 170 Limbo
My husband was the captain of HMS Teazer 1957-8, I wonder if anyone remembers him? I am trying to put together a short Memoir of his naval life for the benefit of the grandchildren and would welcome any background information/account of events/amusing stories. I think trials in Loch Goil were the highlights, but trials of what? Propellers?
Pennant number definitely F23
Carolyn Alston, please note that this is HMS Vigilant. HMS Teazer is on picture number 1373.
Re HMS Teazer - there are photographs from Able Seaman Jack Rile's collection here:
He served on the vessel.
Thanks, I have enough photos! I was hoping for some written accounts of life onboard, if possible.
Carolyn Alston, suggest that you look at https://www.maritimequest.com/warship_directory/great_britain/pages/destroyers/hms_teazer_f23_message_board.htm
Fascinating items and photos from ex-Teazers.